- Fri Sep 02, 2005 2:02 am
#641
Hi Ron,
I just want to remind you and everyone here that this forum is a place for people to give their opinions on these subjects. I think it's great that you're telling us some of your interesting ideas, but at the same time your delivery is a bit offputting because you present your theories as absolute fact. Instead of telling people who respond that they are just plain wrong, let's get some good dialogue going, and perhaps you can begin your postings with terms like "I believe I know the ten secrets..." or "Based on my research on this subject...". I want to keep this forum peaceful and not discourage anyone else from posting.
Here's one thought I had: the visionaries say they will see the fulfillment of the ten secrets within their lifetimes. The priest who is supposed to announce each of the ten secrets will be alive. So how would the last of the secrets be revealed in 2437?
Also, in your article about how you came up with that date for Christ's return, you wrote the following:
At La Salette, the Virgin Mary gave two dates related to the start of the Antichrist’s reign: “In the year 1864, Lucifer with a great number of demons will be unleashed from hell” and “In the year 1865, the abomination will be seen in holy places….” These events did not occur in the A.D. 1800’s. However, during both parts of the tribulation, the Islamic faith will have a certain dominance in the world. The dates 1864 and 1865 in the Islamic calendar correspond to the dates A.D. 2430 and 2431 in the Christian (Gregorian) calendar.
On the contrary, I think that this message coincides with that of other prophets and popes about a time in the 1800's when God will allow the devil to test the Church for a hundred years or more. The first secret of Medjugorje is an event that is supposed to "break the power of Satan" and Mirjana has said that he knows his time is short. She also said that Satan and his demons were released from hell quite a while ago as a test, permitted by God, to try the Church.
You say that the events foretold at La Salette did not occur when Our Lady said they would occur, but I believe they did... We would not be able to see Lucifer and demons being unleashed from hell, in the same way we cannot see angels, but if we look at the history of the last two centuries we can certainly see a wild increase in evil beginning around this time. As far as an exact date, it could refer to 1864 when Karl Marx founded the International Working Men's Association, which brought him into the political spotlight and paved the way for Communism. I find it very hard to believe that Mary would give Islamic dates for a prophecy, and this notion that you claim to be absolute fact makes me question the rest of the reasons why you believe Christ will return in 2437.
In conclusion, I just want to reiterate that any postings made on this Forum -- including my own -- should be presented as opinion, and above all we must maintain an atmosphere of openness and fellowship as Our Lady would want us to do. Thank you everyone for being a member here.
