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irish m wrote:Pope Francis in his Wednesdays general audience in St Peters square God cannot be God without man he told the audience (do not know what he is at)Please don't bring the criticisms of Pope Francis to this forum. He has been attacked relentlessly by many of the traditionalist community on the internet who spend their time looking for little quotes that they can twist into something they can criticize.
God Bless you all
love Irish M
Dear brothers and sisters, we are never alone. We can be far, hostile; we can even say we are “without God.” But Jesus Christ’s Gospel reveals to us that God cannot be without us: He will never be a God “without man”; it is He who cannot be without us, and this is a great mystery! God cannot be God without man: this is a great mystery! And this certainty is the source of our hope, which we find kept in all the invocations of the Our Father, When we are in need of help, Jesus does not tell us to be resigned and to shut ourselves in ourselves, but to turn to the Father and to ask Him with trust. All our needs, the most evident and daily as food, health, work to that of being forgiven and sustained in temptations, are not the mirror of our solitude: instead, there is a Father who always looks at us with love, and who certainly does not abandon us.The critics, I fear, have closed their hearts to Francis and in doing so to Jesus as well.
bluecross wrote: then isn’t it possible that God also has needs like the man he made in the image of himself.No. That violates recognized Catholic theology on the nature of God.
bluecross wrote: God needs us.Catholic theology of God teaches that this is not true.
bluecross wrote:Prodigals answered:
Can love exist on its own?
Yes.BC asks: How?
bluecross wrote:So catholic theology is wrong.
God needs us.
Catholic theology of God teaches that this is not true.
bluecross wrote:Prodigals answered:
Can love exist on its own?
Yes.BC asks: How?
irish m wrote: But Jesus Christ’s Gospel reveals to us that God cannot be without us: He will never be a God “without man”; it is He who cannot be without us, and this is a great mystery!Hi Irish M; Even the pope admits this aspect of God is a mystery!
Prodigals wrote:Since this is a forum on Medjugorje topics, I don't want to divert it into a long discussion on the theology of God, which has no end.I want you do to this Prodigals! I love your precise analytical posts; No harm in attempting to broach the topic of the theology of God every now & again. Even if we can only manage short glimpses.
irish m wrote:I Prodigals you have losted me thereDon't worry about it, Irish. Just pour a Jamesons on the rocks and relax.
Prodigals wrote:The topic of the theology of God is deep, and is the stuff of severe headaches for those who dive deeply into its confusing waters.It's funny how so many sermons i listened to online, almost all the priests said how difficult a topic trinity Sunday is to discuss.
Maryh wrote:Hear a real mystery!Prodigals wrote:Then, the mind boggled for me further when i thought of how the 'son' aspect of God was to be identified before Christ???
All we're told is that in the beginning was 'the word'.
How did God express himself as the 'Son' before Jesus? Would it have been through the angelic beings he made?
Maryh wrote:How did God express himself as the 'Son' before Jesus?By giving us glimpses of His Son all throughout the Old Testament. God provided people and events that gave us this glimpse of Christ.