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maryannlucy wrote: do not believe lying voices which speak to you about false things, false glitter.Where is the real meaning in life?
do not believe lying voices which speak to you about false things, false glitter.
The apparitions, the presumed current apparitions: the [Medjugorje Commission] report has its doubts. I personally am more nasty, I prefer the Madonna as Mother, our Mother, and not a woman who’s the head of a telegraphic office, who everyday sends a message at such hour. This is not the Mother of Jesus. And these presumed apparitions don’t have a lot of value. This I say as a personal opinion. But, it’s clear. Who thinks that the Madonna says, ‘come tomorrow at this time, and at such time I will say a message to that seer?’ No. The two apparitions are distinguished.
Pope Francis, May 14, 2017
http://medjugorjelive.org/2017/05/14/wh ... edjugorje/
Mary, a disciple of Christhttp://www.vatican.va/spirit/documents/ ... no_en.html
"But look here, my brothers and sisters, concentrate more, I beg you, on what follows, concentrate more on what Christ the Lord said as he stretched out his hand over his disciples: This is my mother and these are my brothers; and whoever does the will of my Father who sent me, that person is a brother to me and a sister and a mother (Mt 12:49-50). Didn't the Virgin Mary do the will of the Father? I mean, she believed by faith, she conceived by faith, she was chosen to be the one from whom salvation in the very midst of the human race would be born for us, she was created by Christ before Christ was created in her. Yes, of course, holy Mary did the will of the Father. And therefore it means more for Mary to have been a disciple of Christ than to have been the mother of Christ. It means more for her, an altogether greater blessing, to have been Christ's disciple than to have been Christ's mother. That is why Mary was blessed, because even before she gave him birth, she bore her teacher in her womb.
Just see if it isn't as I say. While the Lord was passing by, performing divine miracles, with the crowds following him, a woman said: Fortunate is the womb that bore you. And how did the Lord answer, to show that good fortune is not really to be sought in mere family ties? Rather blessed are those who hear the word of God and keep it (Lk 11:27-28). So that is why Mary, too, is blessed, because she heard the word of God and kept it. She kept truth safe in her mind even better than she kept flesh safe in her womb. Christ is truth, Christ is flesh; Christ as truth was in Mary's mind, Christ as flesh in Mary's womb; that which is in the mind is greater than what is carried in the womb.
Mary is holy, Mary is blessed, but the Church is something better than the Virgin Mary. Why? Because Mary is part of the Church, a holy member, a quite exceptional member, the supremely wonderful member, but still a member of the whole body. That being so, it follows that the body is something greater than the member. The Lord is the head, and the whole Christ is head and body. How shall I put it? We have a divine head, we have God as our head."
St. Augustine, Sermon 72/A, 7
Maybe the Vatican dislikes 'the cult' of Mary that seems to occur sometimes.
We bishops, after a three-year-long commission study, accept Medjugorje as a holy place, as a shrine. This means we have nothing against it if someone venerates the Mother of God in a manner also in agreement with the teaching and belief of the Catholic Church...
Cardinal Kuharic, August 1993
Apostolic Exhortation of His Holiness Paul VI
for the Right Ordering and Development of Devotion to the Blessed Virgin Mary
February 2, 1974
http://w2.vatican.va/content/paul-vi/en ... ultus.html
I'm like Job in this weeks gospel sometimes wondering about things!In today’s gospel... “Everybody is looking for you”.
Quote wrote:“Dear children... do not permit for selfishness, for self love, to rule the world. Do not permit for love and goodness to be hidden....”It seems that people are being to encouraged to do what suits them and what they want by those in government and those given a prominent voice in the media, whether written or visual. These voices often appear well-polished and often put down/demean/ridicule meeker voices with disparaging comments. As a result the meeker voices hopefully representing love and goodness appear hidden.
Quote wrote:“....My children, have faith. When you have faith you are happy and are spreading peace; your soul trembles with joy. My Son is in such a soul.When you are giving yourself for the faith, when you are giving yourself for love, when you are doing good to your neighbor, my Son smiles in your soul.....”Be a good example, there is only ONE saviour of the world. Be yourself in God and God will take care of the rest.
Quote wrote:“....because the way which leads to my Son is not easy. It is full of renunciation, giving, sacrifice, forgiveness and much, much love. But this way leads to peace and happiness. ....”Those of us who feel put down/demeaned/ridiculed should persevere and forgive our transgressors (although it is not easy). Above all we should show love.
Quote wrote:“.... My children, do not believe lying voices which speak to you about false things, false glitter.....”with this statement I think of all the sweet sounding catch phrases such as 're-productive rights', 'my body my choice', 'the 'anti-choicers'', 'what do men know?'
Quote wrote:“...My children, set out with me. May your soul tremble with joy.....”Let's set out with Our Lady and have Jesus in our souls.
Prodigals wrote:“Where is the real meaning in life?”I remember a priest in Medjugorje saying: The love of God is the meaning of life.
Maryh wrote:“All i know is that the less time we spend with the truth, the more likely it is we'll believe in a lie. ”I am always wary when people give their interpretations of things. After all we are all only human. I think the best guide we have is to trust our consciences and pray.
Merlorrich wrote:I am always wary when people give their interpretations of things. After all we are all only human. I think the best guide we have is to trust our consciences and pray.Your so right; if i don't strive to pray more -i just won't hear that 'still small voice ' & the end result would be disastrous if left to my own
Merlorrich wrote:Above all we should show love.♥
Maryh wrote:I find the abortion debate an extreme vexation to the spirit these days.Yes the temptation is to hit back, at times it even seems to make sense to do so. It's a test of faith for sure. What Ireland could be become is worrying.
It seems fraught with dangers & i sometimes struggle to feel civilised, let alone Christian. Its really challenging.
Maryh wrote: A few things i got to remember is to: Be angry but do not sin,A friend of mine once said: there's being honest and there's being brutal. One thing I would ask though is: what is truth ? We all have our truths and the truths we think we speak could be misleading. In the enablement culture we have in Ireland, the truth has to be politically correct. The best solution I think is to pray.
Love my enemies,
Guard against divisions and strife & try to be a peacemaker.
Stop seeing the speck in my neighbours eye because we're all sinners.
Speak the truth with love.
Maryh wrote: Your so right; if i don't strive to pray more -i just won't hear that 'still small voice ' & the end result would be disastrous if left to my ownAgreed.
“So you are a king then?” said Pilate. “It is you who say it” answered Jesus. “Yes, I am a king. I was born for this. I came into the world for this: to bear witness to the truth; and all who are on the side of truth listen to my voice.” “Truth?” said Pilate, “what is that?”; and with that he went out again to the Jews and said, “I find no case against him. But according to a custom of yours I should release the king of the Jews?” At this they shouted: “Not this man,” they said “but Barabbas”. Barabbas was a brigand.From this passage we can see that the people were given the opportunity to listen and vote for the side of truth, but chose not to, preferring instead to put truth to death, the truth being life in Christ.
John 18 : 37-40
Choose life and not death of the soul, little children, and in this time when you meditate upon the suffering and death of Jesus I invite you to decide for life which blossomed through the Resurrection, and that your life may be renewed today through conversion that shall lead you to eternal life.
part Medjugorje message, March 25, 1996
bluecross wrote: Thankfully, Pope Francis is due to visit Ireland before the abortion vote takes place.Apart from a fervent subjective hope that his presence will have a favorable impact on the vote, do you have any objective opinion of whether Francis visit will have any effect at all?
Merlorrich wrote:What Ireland could be become is worrying.I think what Ireland already is, is worrying. I never realised how dark it got; how little strong leadership it has.
Fully agree with what SBI said; its always in the argument; how the Catholic church treated us in the past &Only this week Pope Francis asked the question in his Lenten Homily: “How many go through life believing that they are sufficient unto themselves, and end up entrapped by loneliness!”
has zero moral authority now to tell anyone what to do or how to live its life.
Another thing i noticed is how my love has gone cold, I really noticed it.Pope Francis also started his homily saying: “With this message, I would like again this year to help the entire Church experience this time of grace anew, with joy and in truth. I will take my cue from the words of Jesus in the Gospel of Matthew: “Because of the increase of iniquity, the love of many will grow cold” (24:12).
Don't think that was God's plan for us.
bluecross wrote:The Pope’s visit may influence opinion and votes,It may do a lot more than merely 'influence'. The effect may also be akin to pouring petrol on smoldering embers, serving to explode the hateful passions of those who are at the forefront of the catastrophic collapse of the faith in Ireland, and who are leading the headlong descent into apostasy.
Prodigals wrote: It may do a lot more than merely 'influence'. The effect may also be akin to pouring petrol on smoldering embers, serving to explode the hateful passions of those who are at the forefront of the catastrophic collapse of the faith in Ireland, and who are leading the headlong descent into apostasy.Like most European countries, this widespread apostasy will leave a vacuum. Islam will fill that vacuum as people are attracted to faith groups which have a fervent, unapologetic, straightforward belief system. People are also attracted to faith groups which foster a sense of community and belonging (Islam).
stunnedbyit wrote: Islam will fill that vacuum . . . .In the case of the Irish, I don't see that happening. They've thrown up their hands in disgust of any hierarchical religious system of beliefs. Religions - all of them - are out of synchronization with the humanism Irish society is moving towards. Rather, I see them devolving into a worldly secularism that embraces their worldview regarding things like abortion, contraception, divorce, etc.
Prodigals wrote:You could be right Prodigals but, in my opinion, Islam can grow and flourish in any country which has an ultra leftist in power, i.e. Trudeau and Canada.stunnedbyit wrote: Islam will fill that vacuum . . . .In the case of the Irish, I don't see that happening. They've thrown up their hands in disgust of any hierarchical religious system of beliefs. Religions - all of them - are out of synchronization with the humanism Irish society is moving towards. [/i]
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