Wiki,barti,you two should meet and sort all your tiny little problems out BEFORE we join you
.anyway,i dont think this is the right place and way to sort things out.this forum here is for other things than to establish if what happened on this and that day in the past,was whatever it was,that goes on forever now.like wiki already remarked,there are some nice folks out here(v madone f.e.) and you should SHARE your experiences,beliefs and opinions about medjugorje with them.so dont be shy you old geezers,spit it out!and for the rest,well you either spit that out,too or you keep that for yourself,but not some semi-public discussions.