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bluecross wrote:In 1973, eight years before Our Lady began Her visitations at Medjugorje, the United States surrendered to Satan in the landmark legal decision known as 'Roe v. Wade' which made abortions legal. By the time Our Lady made her first visit to the visionaries, about ten million innocents were slaughtered in the U.S. As of the present, we are up to about sixty million.People were bringing little children to Jesus, for him to touch them.
bluecross wrote:Consider the hope and blessings in the hearts of the 35% of voters who said no. Where does that stem from and where can it take Ireland in the future? While there is life there is hope.This is so full of hope, I love it.
Maryh wrote:I can't Thank everyone here on this forum enough for the chats over these past few days.Aww Maryhh, so many of us from around the world were praying and fasting with you all for Ireland and we are all devasted, but we know we cannot give up hope. God bless
When the dark gets dark, the light gets brighter & throughout all this; i noticed the shining stars in all this.
I feel blessed to know there are people like you all still out there.
bluecross wrote:Consider the hope and blessings in the hearts of the 35% of voters who said no. Where does that stem from and where can it take Ireland in the future? While there is life there is hope.This is so full of hope, I love it.
There was a really low turn out of voters in my local area; only maybe less than 30% of the electorate, I think most wanted to keep their hands clean
and stay home, a bit like how Pilate must have felt.
I hope if it was love and compassion that was the true motivating factor that it will prosper & unity will once again be possible.
Its a lack of trust in God & in his goodness and providence that makes people want to resort to abortion in the first place, to take matters into their own hands, to escape 'the curse'.
Only perfect Love can cast out fear.
Lets hope that where sin abounds, grace will abound all the more.
The beginning of our constitution read like a prayer, that i will still say.
“In the Name of the Most Holy Trinity, from Whom is all authority and to Whom, as our final end, all actions both of men and States must be referred, We, the people of Éire, Humbly acknowledging all our obligations to our Divine Lord, Jesus Christ, Who sustained our fathers through centuries of trial, Gratefully remembering their heroic and unremitting struggle to regain the rightful independence of our Nation, And seeking to promote the common good, with due observance of Prudence, Justice and Charity, so that the dignity and freedom of the individual may be assured, true social order attained, the unity of our country restored, and concord established with other nations, Do hereby adopt, enact, and give to ourselves this Constitution.”
1 Peter 2:23
23 When they hurled their insults at him, he did not retaliate; when he suffered, he made no threats. Instead, he entrusted himself to him who judges justly.
stunnedbyit wrote:Actually, I've had enough of the way you shut down debate BC. You are like a forum cop who shouts down anyone who has different views or insights. You are all too ready to believe that someone is either guided by Satan or a right wing xenophobe. You never have trust that people base their views on their own research. I will free this forum of my "poison", and the rest of the forum members can walk on eggshells around you BC.With Maryh, I'd like to say please don't go. Many of us are feeling the way you do about the forum, but please don't go. LOVE your posts!
You claim to have become a better man after your experience in Medjugorje, but I believe that there is also a bully in you. You verbally batter people who have opinions that you dislike, and insinuate that you know their hearts like a modern day Padre Pio.
As I said, I will remove myself from this forum and follow Medjugorje events some other way.
It's a shame that the crushing of free speech (through accusations) is a feature of this forum.....
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stunnedbyit wrote:....It takes many different ingredients to make a cake stunnedbyit. The forum cake would be missing a key ingredient if you stopped posting.
As I said, I will remove myself from this forum and follow Medjugorje events some other way.
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beloved wrote:Aww Maryhh, so many of us from around the world were praying and fasting with you all for Ireland and we are all devasted, but we know we cannot give up hope.Thank you so much Beloved.♥ I never could have guessed just how much prayers and fasting were needed.
Merlorrich wrote:I am still getting over the result, it was a shock to be honest.I was the opposite, I would have been shocked if the result was NO.
Merlorrich wrote:“Jesus, You said that a mother would sooner forget her infantThis has reminded me of how God's got the whole world in his hands, those babies & their Mothers will be in the palm of his hand.
than God His creature, and that ‘even if she would forget her infant, I, God, will never
forget My creature.’
irish m wrote:wouldn't walk on eggshells around anyone if they don't like what I say that is up to them I give as good as I get so if they don't like that's it Do not leaveLove that Irish M. I agree with you!
Prodigals wrote:Sadly, we must now write an obituary for an ancient land.I think prayer can work miracles. Let's not lose hope.
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And when, in the future, the time comes for the price to be paid for this travesty, the wards will be full of weeping and lamentations by those begging pardon for their stain.
irish m wrote:we have a priest here in the North of Ireland saying he won't marry a couple for he found out the fellow the girl was marrying voted YesI think prayer can work miracles. Let's not lose hope.
Maryh wrote: I was the opposite, I would have been shocked if the result was NO.I think prayer can work miracles. Let's not lose hope.
Every NGO, most of the politicians, celebrities, media, well known Irish personalities, the UN,
the top doctors in the national maternity hospital, the heads of rape crisis centres; All in one chorus calling for repeal.
Now the outcome is known, there is such a horrible ominous sense of foreboding as it will become 'legal'.
I'm trying hard to not 'let my heart be troubled'. I'm relying on God to take me out of the pit.
Even though I walk through the darkest valley, I will fear no evil, for you are with me; your rod and your staff, they comfort me.
Psalm 23:4
Blessed be the Lord-day after day he carries us along. He's our Saviour, our God, Oh Yes! He's God-for-us, he's God-who-saves-us. LORD GOD knows all death's ins and outs.
Psalm 68:19-20.
Prodigals wrote:Sadly, we must now write an obituary for an ancient land.Our very own John Waters wrote one:
Merlorrich wrote:This is a dark hour, but let's pray to the Holy Spirit to lead us to hope as well as to a brighter future. Has God led you out of the pit yet Maryh?Think i'll have to take it one day at a time Merlorrich, Thanks for asking!
Merlorrich wrote:I think people can still pray that the legislation will not pass. And people need to pray for an end to abortions.I'd say they'll bulldoze it through, come high or high water.
Prodigals wrote:Ireland is a civilization in freefall. Its people are turning away in droves from the message of Our Lady of Medjugorje lest it's truth disturb their consciences.We have all gone astray like sheep. Some were driven out & some went out by their own accord.
Merlorrich wrote:I think prayer can work miracles. Let's not lose hope.You've encouraged me to pray more that this weapon formed against the most defenceless will not prosper.
irish m wrote:we have a priest here in the North of Ireland saying he won't marry a couple for he found out the fellow the girl was marrying voted Yes he must be from the south of lreland he said you can't pick and choose what the lord said so he is not marrying themI heard also how another priest had kicked out the St. Vincent De Paul clothing bank because they refused to advocate for the No side.
Maryh wrote:
Think i'll have to take it one day at a time Merlorrich, Thanks for asking!
Trying to sing hymns of praise to dispel the spirit of heaviness.
I still get that sinking feeling when i think of what is yet to come. If i think too much about it- i feel sickened so i'm trying to 'get out of my head' more by concentrating on practical things & trying to focus on what my responsibilities are & what God wants me to do.
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{Good thing it's not up to me though or the fur would fly!}
Therefore, you, apostles of my love, you who know how to love and forgive, you who do not judge, you whom I encourage, you be an example to all those who are not going on the way of light and love or who have diverted from it. By your life show them the truth. Show them love because love overcomes all difficulties, and all of my children thirst for love. Your unity in love is a gift to my Son and me. But, my children, remember that to love also means to desire the good for your neighbor and to desire conversion of your neighbor's soul.Or at least that is how it seems to me But I guess the messages have something that speaks to each of us. However, I do need to work on showing love, forgiveness and not judging.
Merlorrich wrote:I think Our Lady has covered what God wants of us in the 2 June message:I agree Merlorrich.
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Merlorrich wrote:Show them love because love overcomes all difficulties, and all of my children thirst for love.This really stuck in my head ever since i read it.
Merlorrich wrote:Never heard the expression 'or the fur will fly' before (or perhaps I did and forgot). Would you like to have all that power ?I was only joking about the fur flying. Suppose it was a private joke when i consider my own personal standards of mercy in comparison with God's. Gods love is unconditional.
Merlorrich wrote:Anyway, we are lucky God has patience with us and that this is a time of mercy.Thanks for reminding me; we all still got time to make things better and make wrong things right with the help of God.
Maryh wrote: Thanks for reminding me; we all still got time to make things better and make wrong things right with the help of God.No problem. Let's hope that we are successful.
Merlorrich wrote:Never heard the expression 'or the fur will fly' beforeIt's an American thing, Mer.
Prodigals wrote: It's an American thing, Mer.Thanks Prodigals, if you were reading some of the social media commentary in the run up to the referendum, you might have said that the fur was flying - major league style?
During our early years, the American frontier generated all sorts of colorful ideomatic language expressions.
This one conjurs up the vision of a frenzied vicious fight between two furry animals.
Maryh wrote:Just read this psalm & it reminded me of God's promises.very poignant verse that Maryh, makes one wonder.......but having said that - with the final line referring to destruction - the most advisable thing I think is to implore for mercy.
Psalm 94
Can a corrupt throne be Your ally—
one devising mischief by decree?
They band together against the righteous
and condemn the innocent to death.
But the LORD has been my stronghold,
and my God is my rock of refuge.
He will bring upon them their own iniquity
and destroy them for their wickedness.
The LORD our God will destroy them.
Maryh wrote:Could be Maryh, could be. Let's watch this space. Shortly after the referendum there was a powerful thunder storm. I was talking to a chap who saw it in the distance. He said the sky was multi-colored. Could this also be a sign ? Again I am reminded to focus on asking for mercy.
Recently a maple tree that was planted outside one of Ireland's best known historic colleges- Trinity College- came crashing down
in the middle of the night. The tree was dated back to the 1840's & the collapse came as a shock to those who oversee's these things, who said it was an unexpected event. Apparently they test these trees on a regular basis for health and safety reasons.
Can't help but think of it as some kind of omen or sign...the maple tree is supposed to be a symbol of strength and endurance.